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Hokie5150
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Even then, it wasn't the legislation that made him prosperous. The
legislation didn't pour wealth into his life without any effort or input on his part. He didn't sit at home in his easy chair and receive prosperity as a result of gov't legislation.
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Whataboutism....
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Like depreciation, in the long run it ultimately makes little difference
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 5:54PM
Yeah, I agree with all of that. Hence my question, "does this
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Boca, old chap, how dare you accuse me of being inconveniently gimmicky!
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12/13/2017 8:03PM
Not that I can see in the long run, or any class for that matter.Just can't
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12/13/2017 6:05PM
How do you define "middle class investor" **
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 3:57PM
See MassHole's article below. This is a big issue IMO **
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12/13/2017 4:10PM
A big issue not getting anywhere near enough coverage.
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12/13/2017 4:17PM
Sad **
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12/13/2017 2:57PM
The new Senate stock sales FIFO rules will hurt investors
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12/13/2017 2:25PM
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12/13/2017 2:03PM
Without reading it... **
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12/13/2017 2:42PM
Re: GOP expanding tax cuts for wealthy (that headline will galvanize support
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12/13/2017 1:41PM
It's what their middle and lower class voters want, for some reason. **
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12/13/2017 1:32PM
Even the fly-over dullards realize that they were never hired by a poor man **
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12/13/2017 1:45PM
Anyone who believes in supply side economics is in fact a dullard.
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WahooRQ
12/13/2017 2:35PM
Does this sound familiar?
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Seattle .Hoo
12/13/2017 2:03PM
Govt shouldn’t legislate to make anyone prosperous
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TomKazanski
12/13/2017 2:11PM
Gov't legislation doesn't make people prosperous. **
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 4:06PM
What a goofy statement. Of course it can, and often has. **
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12/13/2017 4:24PM
Get ready. Here come the Libertarian rabbit-hole questions. ;) **
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12/13/2017 4:25PM
If legislation can create prosperity, why does poverty still exist?
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 6:04PM
If we give everyone a home we could end homelessness
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12/13/2017 9:05PM
Precisely my point. **
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 9:07PM
So Beavis AND Butthead are in agreement . Bravo **
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111Balz
12/13/2017 10:40PM
So, Ace, why not give an example of gov’t legislation
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Hokie5150
12/14/2017 05:25AM
As I said below, every tax credit. The argument you and palmyra
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111Balz
12/14/2017 07:51AM
You have an extremely odd definition of "prosperity". **
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Hokie5150
12/14/2017 08:03AM
He is too busy searching for Blanket and Armpit
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PalmyraHoo
12/14/2017 07:41AM
Yeah, best to avoid the vortex of stupid in general, but this one was just
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WahooRQ
12/13/2017 4:45PM
Such as what legislation made people prosperous? **
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 4:28PM
That which required RQ's past employment? Plenty getting
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 4:49PM
Even then, it wasn't the legislation that made him prosperous. The
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 4:58PM
Well, by that definition any gov't handout program would qualify. It may
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 5:07PM
I suppose...if one considers eking out a living to be "prosperity". **
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 5:48PM
In theory any tax credit granted to an industry is making an investment
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111Balz
12/13/2017 5:31PM
The 13th Amendment especially didn't make anyone more prosperous. **
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WahooRQ
12/13/2017 5:04PM
It didn't. In theory, it gave people the opportunity to seek
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 5:07PM
LOL, can always count on you to dig your heels in on the world's dumbest
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WahooRQ
12/13/2017 5:09PM
Just as I can always count on you to never address the point being made. **
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Hokie5150
12/13/2017 5:51PM
Haha! You KNEW it was going to happen! **
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Seattle .Hoo
12/13/2017 5:19PM
Government provides the structure and environment to make them prosperous.
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12/13/2017 2:17PM
The Iceman only drives on roads he built himself.
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12/13/2017 3:25PM
What makes them dullards isn't that.
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12/13/2017 1:52PM
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 2:04PM
Only fools actually believe the companies pay taxes, when in fact
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QBSacker
12/13/2017 3:53PM
Apple doesn't pay taxes because of something other than that though, right?
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southdenverhoo
12/13/2017 10:34PM
The point is that the money never comes from Apple, it comes from YOU
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QBSacker
12/14/2017 12:21PM
That's pretty much simplistic nonsense. Apple doesn't unilaterally
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12/14/2017 1:27PM
You're talking about pricing, I'm talking about the real source of
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12/14/2017 1:35PM
Well if you're not talking about pricing, what do you suppose is being
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12/14/2017 1:38PM
Evidently you think corporate taxes are paid out of something other
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QBSacker
12/14/2017 1:46PM
You stopped making sense four posts ago, so maybe I'll just leave it at
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WahooRQ
12/14/2017 1:53PM
You keep obfuscating the truth about corporate taxes by tying that into
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QBSacker
12/14/2017 1:56PM
You are the one who keeps claiming that corporate taxes are passed on
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12/14/2017 2:04PM
Thank you. Amazing how clueless or disingenuous folks are on this simple
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 4:11PM
The rate is comparatively high, but after tax breaks what they pay isn't **
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12/13/2017 2:13PM
The "breaks" you reference is primarily them avoiding the high US tax
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12/13/2017 2:21PM
No, the breaks are built in to appear they pay a lot but they really don't **
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12/13/2017 2:31PM
Which breaks are those? **
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 2:32PM
All of them **
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hokeyhokie
12/13/2017 2:44PM
No, Seriously. Which tax breaks are companies taking advantage of to
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 2:52PM
I don't get your angle. There are lots of them. Check out irs.gov **
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hokeyhokie
12/13/2017 2:57PM
So you have no answer, you sound bite spouting shit bag. **
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12/13/2017 11:03PM
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 3:13PM
Depreciation (here we go ) reduces taxable income. If one believes
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12/13/2017 3:38PM
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12/13/2017 4:15PM
Yes...there is a time value of money from deferring taxes to a latter
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12/13/2017 5:25PM
I agree, but to HokeyHokie's point that companies pay less than the
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 5:31PM
Well it could, depending on how it times successive capital
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111Balz
12/13/2017 5:37PM
Right, but EVENTUALLY it evens out. **
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 5:39PM
So GOVCO is a better steward of a person's income than is the person? **
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Tuckahokie
12/13/2017 1:55PM
Different issue
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Beerman
12/13/2017 1:58PM
The cutting of the tax rates is for....
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Freddyburg Hokie
12/13/2017 2:28PM
Yes. Of course. **
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Beerman
12/13/2017 2:34PM
Just curious do you call the gruberites
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TomKazanski
12/13/2017 2:19PM
We're gonna need to organize an intervention for use of
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wahoo138
12/13/2017 2:45PM
You know that quote you love to drop was candidate Obama in June 2008, no?
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WahooRQ
12/13/2017 2:40PM
You will also note
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Beerman
12/13/2017 2:33PM
I am generally against the notion of government health care
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Beerman
12/13/2017 2:32PM
You didn’t answer my question
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TomKazanski
12/13/2017 2:53PM
Dullards?
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Beerman
12/13/2017 3:02PM
They also realize none of the rich man's tax savings is coming down to them
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WaxHoo
12/13/2017 1:49PM
Maybe they also realize the rich man is still paying
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 1:56PM
+12.4% (both EE & ER share) for S.S. up to the cap. **
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 4:07PM
Yeah,but I'm assuming the "rich man" long stopped paying that on
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 4:17PM
Understand, but they still pay it up to the $112K or whatever the cap is. I
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 4:28PM
O, the humanity **
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WaxHoo
12/13/2017 2:12PM
Sorry, but the federal government taking 40% of someone's
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BocaHoo91
12/13/2017 2:22PM
I don't like it any more than you do (I'm in that bracket)
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WaxHoo
12/13/2017 2:27PM
No you're not, you unhinged asshole. You're a psycho...
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Generic
12/13/2017 11:12PM
Wow. Back on your meds, pronto. The guys in the white coats are coming
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WaxHoo
12/14/2017 10:38AM
The only fraudulent representation is from those claiming this screws the
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Hoodafan
12/13/2017 4:14PM
The rich man got rich by hiding his money under the mattress **
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Tuckahokie
12/13/2017 1:52PM
One word: Kansas **
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WaxHoo
12/13/2017 1:54PM
Kansas took the reduction too far...as did Connecticut in the other directi **
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Tuckahokie
12/13/2017 1:58PM
While the DC morons aren't? **
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WaxHoo
12/13/2017 2:14PM
Trump told them it's a cut
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Beerman
12/13/2017 1:43PM
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